These are our economy adult drums. Great for younger or first time singer, smaller sized adults, travel drum or a budget situations. They are also small enough that they are less likely to go flat in the high humidity of a sweatlodge. Although we would recommend our 14″ or 15″ moose if looking specifically for sweatlodge drum. Our 14″ deer are 2 1/4″ deep and come with drum stick. We weave a four direction handle that is comfortable to hold. Lacing is also deer. We hand steam our own hoops. We work with a local farmer who selectively cuts white ash trees, we then cut of the boards to 5/16″ thick and steam then in a steam box and bend them round. Our hoops are about 98% perfect round. All of our drums come with a drum stick.